dCS Bartok>Chord DAVE>MSB discrete discreteR2R R2R DAVE BartokdCSBartok The lo-res display also makes menu ]set-up fiddly because it doesn't have enough space to display words. And this level of detail the MSB Discrete brings to the listening experience was carried through everything I listened toand I listened to this DAC a lot, with it being the only thing I used to for a solid two weeks. So thats it and I think the only thing I think Ive left out of the build part of this DAC is the 3 buttons and the knob on the front panel which are used for manually changing the volume and menu diving, though all this can be done from the remote. I suppose what Im saying (badly) is that the Discrete was true to the file it was being fed and I did enjoy hearing it allowed me to pull small details out of the mix Jazz at the Pawn Shop (DSD128) felt more lifelike and in the room than I am used to and raw tracks such as Phutures Acid Trax did sound rougher and really basically recorded. I haven't yet come across one DAC that is best and will completely dominate other great DACs across all audio evaluation parameters. a year ago I got the new Renderer V2 which was a step up over USB. Conversely, you could spend a lot more and not gain a great deal in real terms. home system and listening for that end result. Elegant design. Others might disagree but these are my findings. I hope to also have an opportunity to listen to a T+A DAC8 (for DSD512) and a Chord Dave (DSD256) in my system soon (with HQPlayer). I'm looking for suggestions on DACs I should listen to as possible replacement of my Chord Dave. Set up is key, cables are super important, server is also I cant help with comparisons of two of these DACs, but I did hear the Tambaqui up against the dCS Bartok and it was a pretty close call, but ultimately the dCS sounded more analogue and more immersive.However, this was at a time when both units were a similar price. for instance, the Select II is modular (customers can easily change modules in seconds)so it has the ability to quickly modify its inputs to allow for optimization of various interfaces. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites. it just complimented my system better than those other two. turns out that with the Extreme USB slightly pulls ahead of the Ethernet with the Renderer, then adding the Pro USB there is now a significant step up over the Renderer. Analogue Volume Control 1dB from 0 to 106 Deactivable by menu, Dimensions ChassisWidth : 432 mmDepth: 305 mmHeight without feet: 51 mm. In that price range, you would be mad not to add the MSB Premier DAC to your list as well. @astewart8944--two years ago in Feb of 17 i did audition the original Formula dac in my system directly compared to the Lampizator GG 1.5 and the Nagra HD and preferred the Formula for its greater space, lower noise, and more neutral and fast presentation. As you mentioned imaging better, incredible PRaT with MSB. Along with an integrated clock, changing this card allows switching between single-ended and balanced outputs. It is on kind loan from a member and costs US $14,000. Strangely from this company is lack of any anti-aliasing on the text causing pixels to not be seen in the fonts chosen! For the most part, I listened to the MSB through our LAB12 and Krell KST100 amps and TotalDAC D100 speakers. An FPGA does not have analog output, in the Chord DACs, the FPGA handles digital processing only, not conversion from digital to analog. The dCS Bartok was also interesting but, based on my research, I kept coming back to Bricasti. Much appreciated. With two prime DACs, we yield an unprecedented level of detail, reproducing the musicality, soundstage, and texture of an original performance, bringing the artist to you. Was it a speaker setup or headphone setup? It's just more financially viable to me for the performance and price ratio. Thirdly, having suggested that the brightness issue may lay elsewhere, I will shortly post a suggested tweak directly to both HMS and DAVE - that I have found to increase the "weight", "solidity" and "analogueness" of the resulting sound. Watts is avidly not reading this in anticipation of the video version he won't watch. I auditioned a DAVE (not deconstructed) and TT2 and found all Chord products lacked the musicality of MSB. Anyone make that comparison? Unfortunately not, I'm going the second hand route as I've done with most of my setup. It has the option for two PSUs and once you hear with both it becomes a necessity to have both. This puts it up against some serious competition! . But the majority of the time all 6 of What didn't you like about the Dave? Is it too hot to touch? I'm not an absolutist, and frankly, I could be happy with any of the DACs I mentioned. However, to get this level of separation and detail within the soundscape the DAC is clearly having a very important role to play. The headamp is powerful but not involving. Triangle Magellan Concerto 2< AQEverest< Vitus Audio SS-010 Mk2< AQDragon High Current< AQWELXLR< ChordQutestDAC w UpTone JS-2 & AQ Dragon Source < AQDiamond USB< InnuosPhoenix USBwAQ Dragon Source< AurenderN100H & AQ Dragon Source< NetGear GS105GESwitch w UpTone LPS1.2< Supra CAT8 Ethernet
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